Tuesday 17 May 2011
France - an asylum from homophobia?
A giant rainbow flag at a demonstration against homophobia.
Reuters/Demian Chavez
By Sarah Elzas

Today is International Day against Homophobia. Homosexuality has been decriminalized in France since 1982. But that is not the case everywhere, and an increasing number of gay and lesbian people from other countries come to France each year to ask for asylum.

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SARKOZY IS HISTORY - POLITICS IN FRANCE HAS TO CHANGE...

I think Kemal BAYAR came across as a fantastic person.
If: i) Kemal [of ARDHIS (Paris)], ii) Emmanuel [of Theatre de la Ville (Paris)] & iii) Bernard [of the City Hall (Paris)] were to get together - the face of politics in France would change for the better!

We walked [LA MARCHE] in 2011 - the VOTE [LA VOTE] in 2012
Bernard DELANOE for FRENCH PRESIDENT in 2012!

Look at: "MOST SOUGHT AFTER MODEL IN THE WORLD..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hhgi9PGlBU&feature=channel_video_title
[ YOULAWMASTER (YouTube)]

Discrimination in Paris is BAD - never reported

You should broadcast a programme about ARDHUIS in Paris. It tries to support gay people. It cannot cope, as discrimination against LGBT people is far too entrenched. Far too many LGBT people are discriminated against regularly in Paris and throughout France. Yet the media never reports it. Why not?

its obvious kemal is genuine

its obvious kemal is genuine

chenges in the law - tell us what happens to kemal

1. Changes to immigration law mean that many sick in france claiming asylum could be deported. Time to move to UK!
2. As a result of France's bombing activity in Libya, wanting Oil and Gas, France & Italy are thinking of suspending the Schengen Agreement.
3. Turkey is a dodgy state when it comes to Human Rights.

Asylum Program was great ... a story for gay people... at last

Thanks for your great program. I wanted to know if your interviewee will get his asylum.
You could turn this into a radio-soap. Gay people only!

FACEBOOK informs us that Kemal has been evicted for "being GAY"?

Is it true that Kemal has been evicted for "being GAY"?
sounded too good to be true
brave Kemal needs our support
tried to fight for all of us
people like kemal are special

IF I KNEW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH KEMAL I WOULD MARRY HIM

If i knew how to get in touch with kemal i would marry him for him to have all my babies.
But as gay people we cant get married we can only ever have a second class kind of partnership which is a way to treat us all as second class people and to persecute us all with intolerant HOMOPHOBIA.

State Structured Discrimination in the very heart of Europe.
That is what Kemal is fighting - for all of us.

KEMAL MUST SUCCEED OR THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN FRANCE

KEMAL MUST SUCCEED OR THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN FRANCE

I wish I could help Kemal

I would like to help kemal but i don't live in France.
Tell kemal that if he doesn't get Asylum in France he must go to the UK. He will get a home, a job and be treated properly!

Kemal has great courage - he is what we need in france

It takes a great deal of courage to do what Kemal did.
If I was the immigration interviewer i would give him asylum

IF YOU HAVE JUST 1 PERSON IN THE WORLD - PROMISE TO LOVE HIM

IF YOU HAVE JUST 1 PERSON IN THE WORLD - PROMISE TO LOVE HIM

I would like to give your great guy from Turkey one thing - HOPE!

HAD NO IDEA SUCH GREAT PEOPLE AS KEMAL STILL EXIST - SPECIAL GUY

Why do good people like the great guy you interviewed have to suffer so much pain. Yet those who are illegals seem to be waved through?

We should allow Kemal in but give interviews of longer than 4 hrs every day to those who come here as economic migrants!

Kemal is an Angel - Angels are cared for!

Your interview with Kemal was FANTASTIQUE!

SHOULD KEMAL BE BE GRANTED ASYLUM? A RESOUNDING YES! YES! YES!

Kemal sounds delicious!
He sounds caring.
He comes across as sensitive.
He is humble.
He is thoughtful.
He is intelligent.
He knows how to speak English very well.
He sounds as if he was under a huge amount of stress - as you said he was interviewed immediately after he had come out of an over 4 hour long stressful, anxious, tormenting oral examination of every part of his life.
To be prepared to be interviwed under such conditions screams out to anyone [assuming he had all the very many documents to support his testimony] that he was appealing for his life - meaning that if he was ever denied asylum - do not be surprised that would be the very last we would ever hear of Kemal.

Turkey pretends to uphold Human Rights - it does not!

Anyone who is gay in Turkey is expected to undergo Military Conscription. If not, the gay person has to show photogaphic evidence of himself engaging in sexual relations with his male partner. [This constitues undermining the law against self-incrimination (the FIFTH Amendment under the US Constitution)].

Evidence of being gay - once obtained by the Turkish Military - would all be kept permanently on the Official Records of Turkey - meaning no employment for any gay person in Turkey publicly or privately. It is a sure fire way to get yourself eliminated from military and civil society.

Just read all the Human Rights Watch ("HRW") Reports of victims of state oppression in Turkey. Many people become the "disappeared".

No one can pretend they were Persecuted when they were not after a interview of over 4 hours long by an experienced Interviewer from the French Immigration Service.

Kemal is so obviously a victim of persecution under the reasons French Radio mentioned in the beginning of the Interview.

The traditional United Nations ("UN") guidance requires asylum to relate to one the 5 (five) enumerated grounds, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees ("UNHCR") issued Guidelines on International Protection. The guidelines urge signatory nations to the Refugee Convention [including France] to implement a “gender-sensitive interpretation” of the five enumerated grounds, although they specify that gender alone is insufficient to qualify as a ground for protection.

Asylum Law
For an alien [as Turkey is outside the EU of 27 member states and it remains so as it is not prepared to relax its oppressive confrontation to gay people - which it treats as a "hostile life-form" that should be destroyed!] to be able to request asylum in France, the alien must satisfy the definition of a refugee:

“any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, is outside any country in which such person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well founded fear of persecution on account of: "Race, Religion, Nationality, Membership in a particular social group, or Political opinion.”

An applicant asking for asylum in France has to satisfy each of the following elements in order to meet the statutory definition of a refugee: 1) the applicant must have a well founded fear of persecution; 2) the persecution feared must be “on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion”; and 3) the applicant must be unable or unwilling to return to his country of nationality or to the country where he last resided because of past persecution or a well founded fear of future persecution!

We do not know all of Kemal's medical and legal documentary evidence - but it must clearly be very powerful for him to be selected as a candidate for an Asylum application to be interviewed by national French Radio.

Thank you for communicating to us this important piece of radio reportage.

Kindly let us know what happens...

Please interview Kemal again - after the Official decision has been communicated to Kemal - as it is not fair to introduce us to a story of great Human Interest and not follow it through!

THANK YOU!
EXCELLENT REPORT OF GREAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE!

There are some people who are

There are some people who are Deceitful who are in reality "Economic Migrants" who take advantage of the generosity of France and yet there are others - these are the genuine, tortured, persecuted victims of Oppression [i.e. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner] for which the UN Human Rights Commission was set up.

Your interviewee from Turkey was so clearly in the second category - deserving of the support of all of us!

FRENCH PEOPLE PUT THEIR TRUST IN ASYLUM INTERVIEWERS?
FRENCH PEOPLE PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE COURTS?
FRENCH PEOPLE PUT THEIR TRUST IN POLITICIANS?

LET US HOPE THEY ALL RETURN THE RIGHT DECISION!

Kemal Deserves To Be Granted Asylum in Paris, France

Dear Kemal,

I don't know if you will ever see these comments, but I think you deserve being granted Asylum by France!
Your voice tells me you are only too genuine and it is blatantly obvious that you've been through torturous and extremely tormenting times.

Let's hope the French authorities have the bravery to stop your persecution once and for all.

Best wishes,
Philip from Notting Hill (London W11)

ASYLUM APPLICATION OF KEMAL BAYAR - THE PERSECUTED ONES!

HIGHLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIKE KEMAL BAYAR ARE A HUGE BENEFIT TO FRANCE.
HE IS EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT, ARTICULATE, HIGHLY SENSITIVE, CREATIVE & THE VERY BEST CREATIVE STIMULATING PERSON THAT FRANCE NEEDS AT THIS TIME OF CONFLICT AGAINST MENA COUNTRIES.
WE SHOULD BE BUILDING CONSTRUCTIVE BRIDGES AND SUPPORTING GOOD PEOPLE LIKE KEMAL - NOT HOUNDING THE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT GUY THROUGH A 4 (FOUR) HOUR+ HIGHLY STRESSFUL INTERVIEW!
PLEASE GIVE KEMAL - THE LONG SUFFERING VICTIM OF PERSECUTION - A BREAK!
IF YOU CARE FOR THE PERSECUTED - PLEASE GIVE KEMAL ASYLUM IN FRANCE... YOU KNOW HE DESERVES IT!

SHOULD KEMAL BE GRANTED ASYLUM? CAN HE ASSERT THE UNHCR GROUNDS?

I AGREE WITH THE PERSON THAT POSTED THE LAST COMMENTS!
"ANONYME" HAD IT SPOT ON - DESCRIBING KEMAL AS
"EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT, ARTICULATE, HIGHLY SENSITIVE, CREATIVE" - IN SHORT, THE KIND OF PERSON THAT FRANCE NEEDS!

IT WOULD BE A TRAGIC DAY INDEED [FOR THE LEGAL SYSTEM OF FRANCE] IF KEMAL IS NOT GRANTED ASYLUM - AS KEMAL HAS BEEN PERSECUTED & COMES FROM A VERY PROMINENT FAMILY DEEPLY INVOLVED IN POLITICS - WOULD IT NOT BE IN THEIR INTERESTS TO ENSURE [THROUGH ACOLYTES] HIS [PERMANENT] "REMOVAL" FROM THE SCENE WERE HE TO EVER RETURN TO TURKEY?

KEMAL IS NOT AN "ECONOMIC MIGRANT"

WE IN FRANCE MUST WELCOME KEMAL AS SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO ADJUST RAPIDLY TO FRENCH WAYS, FRENCH CUSTOMS & HE GIVES CLEAR EVIDENCE OF HIS DESIRE TO ASSIMILATE INTO FRENCH SOCIETY - THE FACT HE IS DOING HIS BEST TO SPEAK OTHER LANGUAGES FLUENTLY - IS THAT NOT TESTAMENT TO THAT FACT?

IT WOULD BE A GRAVE & HEINOUS CRIME INDEED IF KEMAL IS NOT GRANTED ASYLUM IN FRANCE A.S.A.P.!

[From a Lawyer who must remain anonymous who is only too aware of the criteria constituting the LEGAL GROUNDS necessary in order for the Receiving Jurisdiction to successful GRANT ASYLUM to ASYLEES].

Dear Sarah, Thank you very

Dear Sarah,

Thank you very much for the opportunity you gave us!

Big thanks to Radio France International, English Service

Kemal BAYAR

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